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  I have enjoyed the shunning in the past. But why not now?

  by sinboi in

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  i am prepared for shunning when i send in my da letter.

  my dad was furious when he comes back from overseas and find out that i have da myself.

  yes, i do regret not talking to him first before i da...i also know that my mom is crying in her room.. but they didn't chase me out of the house.

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  "She [granny] loves me a lot. I cannot let her know my family is shunning me. It will cause a lot of trouble to my parents"

  Sinboi,

  You are way more humane and caring than all the people trapped in that cult put together. You are a hero!!
  
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  interesting EX-CO AMA ( Ask Me Anything) over on exjwreddit

  by Diogenesister in

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  ex-circuit overseer here, ama.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.

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  Dis-member

  I don't think you will get an answer to your question. What you see here has been copied and pasted from a different site. That's where the AMA session is taking place (took place?). You may find a link at the beginning of this thread.
  
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  I have enjoyed the shunning in the past. But why not now?

  by sinboi in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am prepared for shunning when i send in my da letter.

  my dad was furious when he comes back from overseas and find out that i have da myself.

  yes, i do regret not talking to him first before i da...i also know that my mom is crying in her room.. but they didn't chase me out of the house.

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  Welcome Sinboi!

  You sound like you are in your teens. I have to say that it was a brave move to disassociate when you are still under the care of your parents. Good for you! The only problem with gutsy decisions is that they are so because there's great pain in the process. Do as Pale Emperor advices. Be the grown-up. Your parents in many ways are child-like and need patience and toleration. Take care of them.

  By the way, it sounds like your dad may not be a hardcore JW..."Take care of your mom". He may even be in the closet. Who knows. I see hope in your family. Take it slow.
  
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  Special Talks now via video

  by AverageJoe1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?

  well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).

  here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.

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  My take is that guests will see the special speech on a monitor and will be disappointed, so they won't attend the Memorial the following week. Therefore the Memorial attendance will suffer. I may be wrong. Possibly people like watching religious speeches on a monitor. We'll see next year.
  
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  Special Talks now via video

  by AverageJoe1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?

  well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).

  here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.

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  Soon JW's will have 7 Jimmy Swaggarts in their living-rooms asking for money. No need for kingdom halls.
  
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  Thinking about the end of the Watchtower

  by JeffT in

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  2. friends

  first, a word about the watchtower’s financial position: nobody (outside the watchtower organization) knows.

  the wtbs is not required to disclose its finances, and doesn’t.

  we can speculate, but that is all we are doing.

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  Steve2: "Who'd have thought the abject failure of Miller's 1844" prophecy about the world's end would have led to thriving religious groups in the 21st Century?

  Yeah, that's a complete validation of the conclusions of the book by Leon Festinger, When Prophecy Fails:

  Festinger stated that five conditions must be present if someone is to become a more fervent believer after a failure or disconfirmation:

  • A belief must be held with deep conviction and it must have some relevance to action, that is, to what the believer does or how he or she behaves.
  • The person holding the belief must have committed himself to it; that is, for the sake of his belief, he must have taken some important action that is difficult to undo. In general, the more important such actions are, and the more difficult they are to undo, the greater is the individual's commitment to the belief.
  • The belief must be sufficiently specific and sufficiently concerned with the real world so that events may unequivocally refute the belief.
  • Such undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur and must be recognized by the individual holding the belief.
  • The individual believer must have social support. It is unlikely that one isolated believer could withstand the kind of disconfirming evidence that has been specified. If, however, the believer is a member of a group of convinced persons who can support one another, the belief may be maintained and the believers may attempt to proselytize or persuade nonmembers that the belief is correct.
    

  
  
  
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  Thinking about the end of the Watchtower

  by JeffT in

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  first, a word about the watchtower’s financial position: nobody (outside the watchtower organization) knows.

  the wtbs is not required to disclose its finances, and doesn’t.

  we can speculate, but that is all we are doing.

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  True, there are some people who need other people making decision for them, but there's plenty that are held hostage and are perfectly capable of finding purpose and joy without a cult leader.

  Get rid of the cult for the benefit of those members who can live without the cult and at the expense of those who need the cult to be happy. You have gains and losses either way, but I side with "the hell with the cult" and let the chips fall where they may. I think there will be a net gain.
  
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  Will Watchtower target the inactive?

  by ToesUp in

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  if watchtower has no reason to df ones.

  they have just become inactive.

  do you all think wt will begin a witch hunt (df'ing) for these inactive ones?

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  never a jw

  They have too many problems to be chasing inactive people. They need volunteers to do the chasing first.
  
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  We don't take collections like other religions do...

  by Alfred in

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  i think this screen shot says it all... need i say more?.

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  never a jw

  what's the link? I want to benefit from the Rewards program.

  EDIT: Found it

  You can donate gift cards, airline rewards, bank rewards, hotel rewards, etc
  
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  North Korea Has Gone and Done it Again

  by cofty in

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  nk has fired another icbm over japan.. the missile flew 2,300 miles at an altitude of 480 miles.

  a korean spokesman has said about japan, “the four islands of the archipelago should be sunken into the sea by the nuclear bomb of juche.

  japan is no longer needed to exist near us”.

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  Trump: "fire an fury"

  North Korea "reduce the U.S. mainland into ashes and darkness"

  Two irrational narcissists who have mastered the game of mind control and selling bullshit may get us into a nuclear war

  And to think that I believed the seven magnificent were dangerous. They are just little puppies in comparison.